Covid-19 will turn into an endemic, where outbreaks will happen, but there would be low rates of circulating virus, in control, which means that it doesn’t cause undue burden in terms of deaths, severe disease or overworked healthcare systems, says Monica Gandhi, infectious diseases specialist and a professor of medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. With a combination of natural immunity from prior infection, vaccine-induced immunity and treatments including promising antivirals, Covid-19 will end up like measles or pertussis, Gandhi says in this interview.